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Post by kullenuska on Dec 2, 2015 15:05:41 GMT -8
id also like to swooce on in and argue abt the only-metagross thing like do we need to make that clearer?? it's a bit of a gray area when it comes to splicing since I did it for iron splicer and didn't get wrecked for it but some judges were uncertain about it. Personally I feel like it's not much of a problem, because my splices are hell and reconstructions of a multitude of sprites so splicing something with itself is what happens in every splice I make either way; restricting your splice content to just one Pokemon is hard work too! (srsly if youre questioning its legitimacy, you should try it some time)
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Post by pokemonscrap on Dec 2, 2015 16:44:33 GMT -8
Neat! Great job, VGBMichael!
I'll totally stay on and face the next challenger.
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Post by lavatarorigin on Dec 2, 2015 18:05:01 GMT -8
One of the judges, please post the trophy. I sent it in our PM but imgur isnt working for me today.
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Post by Makkilemore on Dec 2, 2015 21:04:35 GMT -8
id also like to swooce on in and argue abt the only-metagross thing like do we need to make that clearer?? it's a bit of a gray area when it comes to splicing since I did it for iron splicer and didn't get wrecked for it but some judges were uncertain about it. Personally I feel like it's not much of a problem, because my splices are hell and reconstructions of a multitude of sprites so splicing something with itself is what happens in every splice I make either way; restricting your splice content to just one Pokemon is hard work too! (srsly if youre questioning its legitimacy, you should try it some time) I totally love it, but I can't speak for all the judges. I have a question, what's a raw splice? I'm not sure what I could've done to any of those splices that make the "raw". With crystop, I noticed the way the parts come together made it look kinda wobbly, so I added the swirly eyes to try and make that look intentional. Also the half-blue half-gray thing was completely unintentional (they're not even the same shades of blue and gray), so I'm happy someone said they liked it when I was expecting to get points taken off for it. A raw splice is just a regular two-pokemon splice that is easily recognized as just a splice, between two pokemon. One of the judges, please post the trophy. I sent it in our PM but imgur isnt working for me today. I was waiting until there were both trophies but here you go scrap! artistimistic, are you ready to compete against pokemon scrap in ROUND TWO OF STEEL SPLICER! ?
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Post by pokemonscrap on Dec 2, 2015 22:07:51 GMT -8
A raw splice is just a regular two-pokemon splice that is easily recognized as just a splice, between two pokemon. That's what a raw splice is? I love raw splices! That's most of the fun of splicing!
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Post by VGBMichael on Dec 3, 2015 0:40:42 GMT -8
A raw splice is just a regular two-pokemon splice that is easily recognized as just a splice, between two pokemon. That's what I thought it sounded like, but only one of my splices is just between two pokémon, and even that isn't meant to be just a regular splice. You can put me back at the end of the line, btw.
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Post by lavatarorigin on Dec 3, 2015 1:24:50 GMT -8
Wait, two trophies? have I made two trophies before? i can make another trophy if you wanna, just tell me what to do.
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Post by artistimistic on Dec 3, 2015 6:55:18 GMT -8
Oh boy. I'm ready to be trampled on. When the post is made will you post when they're due bc sometimes it's hard for me with school and such.
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Post by pokemonscrap on Dec 3, 2015 7:56:29 GMT -8
Wait, two trophies? have I made two trophies before? i can make another trophy if you wanna, just tell me what to do. For the latter half of the Iron Splicer tournament, you would also make a second trophy featuring the winner's highest-scoring splice. Personally, I always thought it was too much work for you, so if I have any say, I'd say don't bother this time around.
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Post by lavatarorigin on Dec 3, 2015 9:11:13 GMT -8
Wait, two trophies? have I made two trophies before? i can make another trophy if you wanna, just tell me what to do. For the latter half of the Iron Splicer tournament, you would also make a second trophy featuring the winner's highest-scoring splice. Personally, I always thought it was too much work for you, so if I have any say, I'd say don't bother this time around. OHHH i remember now! Yeah I'll do that, but not now though since paint's been acting up.
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Post by Makkilemore on Dec 3, 2015 10:04:07 GMT -8
A raw splice is just a regular two-pokemon splice that is easily recognized as just a splice, between two pokemon. That's what a raw splice is? I love raw splices! That's most of the fun of splicing! They are very nice and I love them too, but when looking for creative integration of an ingredient and technical skill (at integrating that ingredient), too many of those make it very hard to tell how good you are because 1) integration is usually very streamlined and even sometimes predictable (as with Metakou) and 2) a lot of the time the technical difficulty of integrating them is just low (aversion example: editing the X to look right on Metakou's face, still more of the exception and not the rule). That's what I thought it sounded like, but only one of my splices is just between two pokémon, and even that isn't meant to be just a regular splice. You can put me back at the end of the line, btw. Smashwalker is, from what I could see, just Quagsire, Metagross, and Seismitoad's face? the issue with the idea of a "raw splice" isnt that its just two mons, its the fact that its still very simply recognizable as two individuals rather than one coherent splice. This isn't ALWAYS true, of course; While Scrap's Metakou was very clearly a raw splice, Kingross had enough going on with it that it looked very much like an independent artistic entity (to me at least). Will do, btw. OHHH i remember now! Yeah I'll do that, but not now though since paint's been acting up. Like scrap said, if you feel like its too much work you can forget about it, definitely! I just assumed you would continue to do it since I don't recall you ever complaining about it on Iron Splicer. You're outworking all the other judges just by making one! Oh boy. I'm ready to be trampled on. When the post is made will you post when they're due bc sometimes it's hard for me with school and such. I will indeed state the deadline. If it doesn't work with you we can negotiate an extra day or two, or if it doesn't work at all you can try to work out swapping positions with someone else.
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Post by Nephenon (Enzo) on Dec 3, 2015 10:58:45 GMT -8
Well, I don't think Raw Splices itself are something that should be downvoted or something. I personally like them a lot and they can be very creative too. It does have that Fusion/Mutation feel on it that isn't the case on other ones. So, it shouldn't be about being raw or not. It should be about being creative or not.
Because the problem that some seem to have, is that most raw splices are to simple. And yes for a lot of them its true. But they can still be creative.
Its the same for those splices that only use only the secret ingredient. Yes its only that, but if someone works creatively with what he has, it can still look good, it can still be creative, and it can still be hard work.
So in the end it should be about how creative a splice is, how complex it is (but not to complex) and those things. There are really good raw splices out there too.
I dont think it would have changed the outcome, but the amount of raw splices in the collection shouldn't be a factor. At least in my book.
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Post by Makkilemore on Dec 3, 2015 11:57:10 GMT -8
Well, I don't think Raw Splices itself are something that should be downvoted or something. I personally like them a lot and they can be very creative too. It does have that Fusion/Mutation feel on it that isn't the case on other ones. So, it shouldn't be about being raw or not. It should be about being creative or not. Because the problem that some seem to have, is that most raw splices are to simple. And yes for a lot of them its true. But they can still be creative. Its the same for those splices that only use only the secret ingredient. Yes its only that, but if someone works creatively with what he has, it can still look good, it can still be creative, and it can still be hard work. So in the end it should be about how creative a splice is, how complex it is (but not to complex) and those things. There are really good raw splices out there too. I dont think it would have changed the outcome, but the amount of raw splices in the collection shouldn't be a factor. At least in my book. I agree here except for the last line. Each judge can judge according to their own rules, but for me, I don't judge something down just for being a raw splice. That said, raw splices tend to be easier to take issue with because they tend to be simpler or less technically impressive; I don't penalize those that still manage to be creative and good looking just for being raw splices. However, when judging the whole collection, the number of raw splices should definitely be a factor since having too many of any major group (two clear gijinkas, three of the identical body types, etc.) will be a penalty in the category for variety and diversity. In this regard, the number of raw splices is still relevant.
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Post by VGBMichael on Dec 3, 2015 12:27:55 GMT -8
Yeah, I just thought it was weird that that was a comment on the collection, and not on the individual splices, especially because I tried real hard to keep them from looking like raw splices.
In Smashwalker's case, I couldn't think of anything so I just threw together whatever I could find (it also has Scizor's arms). I tried to make it so the only thing of quagsire's was the body shape, but I probably could've done a better job.
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Post by artistimistic on Dec 3, 2015 12:36:27 GMT -8
I GOT MY FOURTH STAR
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Post by pokemonscrap on Dec 3, 2015 12:54:19 GMT -8
Each judge can judge according to their own rules This. In this kind of competition with a (comparatively) huge panel of judges, it's important that every judge have the freedom to award scores based on their own criteria. In the original Iron Splicer competition, there were just a couple of broad guidelines and everything else was up to the individual judges... Because of that the flavor of the contest changed into something even I never expected, with massive points going to extremely complex splices which bore almost no resemblance to the Secret Ingredient. And that is an amazing thing. So my taste may be a little different from this panel of judges', but that just makes me need to adapt to survive. And that's amazing too.
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Post by Makkilemore on Dec 3, 2015 20:44:16 GMT -8
artistimistic ! In a matter of months you've gone from a total newbie to a wonderful splicer! You have the skills it'll take to excel in this competition! That said, pokemonscrap ! Not only have you always been a splicer of much renown, but you've already won once! It's the matchup between the six-month-splicer and the current champ! Will scrap be dethroned, or will artistimistic have to get back in line?! Artistimistic, pokemonscrap ... Your very own Steel Splicer adventure is about to begin! You will have from now until December 12 to submit four splices containing your secret ingredient! You will be judged on the creativity, technical skill, diversity, and secret ingredient integration of your set by our qualified panel of chandelure , learningtimebuster , lavatarorigin , and yours truly, makkilemore! Your secret ingredient is... Exeggutor! The winner of this competition will get two trophies by lavatarorigin, one of Exeggutor and one of the highest scoring splice! In addition to that, they will get the honor of being the Steel Splicer, and the chance to go again! A l'epissure!
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Post by pokemonscrap on Dec 3, 2015 21:58:51 GMT -8
On it!
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Post by artistimistic on Dec 4, 2015 6:06:04 GMT -8
;u; I'm seasoned with salt and pepper
Good luck and happy splicing
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Post by artistimistic on Dec 4, 2015 16:04:02 GMT -8
I'll edit this post as I complete my splices. First off we have what I like to think of as a mega exeggutor. Just call him. The exeggutive. its strongest attack is a canon involving its offspring ( used exeggutor obvs, deoxys, abomasnow, victreebell, and ursaring ) {Spoiler} What if exeggutor was a steel ghost type. Uh...call this one... spooky egg ( used exeggutor, rainy castform, haunter, registeel, onyx and duosion ) {Spoiler} Bzzzz ( exeggutor, raichu, seviper, electabuzz ) {Spoiler} and lastly, an exeggutor gijinka. Yes he is holding a tiny...exeggutor...pokeball? I dont really know. {Spoiler} I call this entire series feel the frond
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